{"id":9751,"date":"2023-10-27T08:00:00","date_gmt":"2023-10-27T06:00:00","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.blog.neoprog.eu\/?p=9751"},"modified":"2023-10-22T16:47:41","modified_gmt":"2023-10-22T14:47:41","slug":"asiair-plus","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.blog.neoprog.eu\/index.php\/2023\/10\/27\/asiair-plus\/","title":{"rendered":"Asiair Plus"},"content":{"rendered":"\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image size-full\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"1024\" height=\"768\" src=\"https:\/\/www.blog.neoprog.eu\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/10\/monture.jpg\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-9752\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.blog.neoprog.eu\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/10\/monture.jpg 1024w, https:\/\/www.blog.neoprog.eu\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/10\/monture-300x225.jpg 300w, https:\/\/www.blog.neoprog.eu\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/10\/monture-768x576.jpg 768w, https:\/\/www.blog.neoprog.eu\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/10\/monture-400x300.jpg 400w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 1024px) 100vw, 1024px\" \/><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p>J\u2019ai donc \u00e9quip\u00e9 mon <a href=\"https:\/\/www.blog.neoprog.eu\/index.php\/2023\/03\/08\/quarante-kilos\/\">t\u00e9lescope<\/a> d\u2019un ordinateur pour g\u00e9rer le pilotage, la photographie et le guidage de la monture. Je pensais me simplifier la vie mais pour l\u2019instant je gal\u00e8re comme pas possible.\u00a0<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>L\u2019ordinateur en question est un Asiair Plus 32 coupl\u00e9 \u00e0 une cam\u00e9ra de guidage ZWO 120 Mini et le Nikon Z6. <a href=\"https:\/\/www.blog.neoprog.eu\/index.php\/2023\/10\/06\/des-pelotes-de-cables\/\">Beaucoup de c\u00e2bles<\/a>\u2026 L\u2019id\u00e9e \u00e9tait d\u2019assurer un guidage fin du t\u00e9lescope puisque manifestement, avec un Schmitt Cassegrain ouvert \u00e0 f\/10, c\u2019est compliqu\u00e9.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Mes deux premi\u00e8res tentatives se sont sold\u00e9es par des man\u0153uvres incompr\u00e9hensibles et dangereuses du t\u00e9lescope. La monture, au lieu de pointer l\u2019objet demand\u00e9, s\u2019\u00e9garait dans la voute c\u00e9leste \u00e0 la recherche de je ne sais pas quoi. Je me suis m\u00eame retrouv\u00e9 avec le tube point\u00e9 vers le sol. Bref.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Apr\u00e8s avoir suivi un <a href=\"http:\/\/Donc j\u2019ai \u00e9quip\u00e9 mon t\u00e9lescope d\u2019un ordinateur pour g\u00e9rer le pilotage, la photographie et le guidage de la monture. Je pensais me simplifier la vie mais pour l\u2019instant je gal\u00e8re comme pas possible.  L\u2019ordinateur en question est un Asiair Plus 32 coupl\u00e9 \u00e0 une cam\u00e9ra de guidage ZWO 120 Mini et le Nikon Z6. Beaucoup de c\u00e2bles\u2026 L\u2019id\u00e9e \u00e9tait d\u2019assurer un guidage fin du t\u00e9lescope puisque manifestement, avec un Schmitt Cassegrain ouvert \u00e0 f\/10, c\u2019est compliqu\u00e9. Mes deux premi\u00e8res tentatives se sont sold\u00e9es par des man\u0153uvres incompr\u00e9hensibles et dangereuses du t\u00e9lescope. La monture, au lieu de pointer l\u2019objet demand\u00e9, s\u2019\u00e9garait dans la voute c\u00e9leste \u00e0 la recherche de je ne sais pas quoi. Je me suis m\u00eame retrouv\u00e9 avec le tube point\u00e9 vers le sol. Bref. Apr\u00e8s avoir suivi un excellent tuto sur Youtube, j\u2019ai modifi\u00e9 la mani\u00e8re d\u2019alimenter la monture qui passait initialement par l\u2019Asiair. Car d\u2019apr\u00e8s les informations glan\u00e9es ici ou l\u00e0, il semblerait qu\u2019il faille d\u2019abord mettre en station la monture puis allumer l\u2019Asiair et non l\u2019inverse. N\u2019emp\u00eache que \u00e7a ne fonctionnait pas, jusqu\u2019\u00e0 que je comprenne que l\u2019ordinateur utilisait le bo\u00eetier photo pour se rep\u00e9rer dans le ciel, et comme il r\u00e9alise des clich\u00e9s de courte dur\u00e9e, il est n\u00e9cessaire de booster les ISO pendant cette phase. Et la miracle, l\u2019Asiair a point\u00e9 les objets demand\u00e9s avec une excellente pr\u00e9cision. Par contre l\u2019autoguidage apportait plus d\u2019erreurs \u00e0 la monture que sans cam\u00e9ra. Mes photos en auto guidage ressemblaient a des fil\u00e9s d\u2019\u00e9toiles merdiques. C\u2019est l\u00e0 que j\u2019ai trouv\u00e9 un autre tuto, en fran\u00e7ais pour le coup, sur l\u2019auto guidage. Un tuto pour d\u00e9butant heureusement car je n\u2019en ai pas compris la moiti\u00e9 avec ces formules, calculs et explications. Par contre, j\u2019ai bien compris que je l\u2019y prenais comme un manche. Vous savez cette habitude de ne pas lire la notice et d\u2019essayer tout de suite, quitte \u00e0 faire apr\u00e8s quelques ajustements. Ben en astronomie, mieux vaut lire la notice. Le dernier test, un dimanche soir frisquet, \u00e9tait nettement plus prometteur. Apr\u00e8s une rapide mise en station, la monture a point\u00e9 M 31 du premier coup et l\u2019autoguidage a fonctionn\u00e9 \u00e9galement. J\u2019ai fait une dizaine de clich\u00e9s de trente secondes sans fil\u00e9 d\u2019\u00e9toiles, un record, par contre l\u2019Asiair semblait avoir des probl\u00e8mes de dialogue avec l\u2019appareil photo. Je pensais que cela venait de l\u2019iPad  puis du c\u00e2ble USB mais je pense que c\u2019est li\u00e9 \u00e0 la mise en veille du bo\u00eetier. Dans le m\u00eame temps, j\u2019ai command\u00e9 une pi\u00e8ce imprim\u00e9e en 3D \u00e0 mon fils pour fixer l\u2019Asiair directement sur la monture afin d\u2019y accrocher une nouvelle lunette guide ZWO. L\u2019id\u00e9e c\u2019est de monter mon APN avec un objectif 500 mm ouvert \u00e0 f\/5.6 au lieu du t\u00e9lescope 2032 mm f\/10 et de piloter l\u2019ensemble via l\u2019Asiair. Cela le ferait une lunette pour l\u2019astrophoto d\u2019assez bonne qualit\u00e9. Encore un truc \u00e0 tester. Par chance, \u00e0 cette saison, il fait nuit des 20h ce qui me permet de r\u00e9gler mon mat\u00e9riel dans le jardin avant d\u2019aller faire dodo.\">excellent tuto<\/a> sur Youtube, j\u2019ai modifi\u00e9 la mani\u00e8re d\u2019alimenter la monture qui passait initialement par l\u2019Asiair. Car d\u2019apr\u00e8s les informations glan\u00e9es ici ou l\u00e0, il semblerait qu\u2019il faille d\u2019abord mettre en station la monture puis allumer l\u2019Asiair et non l\u2019inverse. N\u2019emp\u00eache que \u00e7a ne fonctionnait pas, jusqu\u2019\u00e0 que je comprenne que l\u2019ordinateur utilisait le bo\u00eetier photo pour se rep\u00e9rer dans le ciel, et comme il r\u00e9alise des clich\u00e9s de courte dur\u00e9e, il est n\u00e9cessaire de booster les ISO pendant cette phase. Et la miracle, l\u2019Asiair a point\u00e9 les objets demand\u00e9s avec une excellente pr\u00e9cision.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Par contre l\u2019autoguidage apportait plus d\u2019erreurs \u00e0 la monture que sans l&rsquo;utilisation de la cam\u00e9ra. Mes photos en autoguidage ressemblaient a des fil\u00e9s d\u2019\u00e9toiles merdiques. C\u2019est l\u00e0 que j\u2019ai trouv\u00e9 un <a href=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/watch?v=NYK8wPg6_dQ&amp;list=WL&amp;index=4\">autre tuto<\/a>, en fran\u00e7ais pour le coup, sur l\u2019autoguidage. Un tuto pour \u00ab\u00a0d\u00e9butant\u00a0\u00bb heureusement car je n\u2019en ai pas compris la moiti\u00e9 avec ses formules, calculs et explications. Par contre, j\u2019ai bien compris que je l\u2019y prenais comme un manche. Vous savez cette habitude de ne pas lire la notice et d\u2019essayer tout de suite, quitte \u00e0 faire apr\u00e8s quelques ajustements. Ben en astronomie, mieux vaut lire la notice.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Le dernier test, un dimanche soir frisquet, \u00e9tait nettement plus prometteur. Apr\u00e8s une rapide mise en station, la monture a point\u00e9 la galaxie d&rsquo;Androm\u00e8de du premier coup et l\u2019autoguidage a fonctionn\u00e9 \u00e9galement. J\u2019ai fait une dizaine de clich\u00e9s de trente secondes sans fil\u00e9 d\u2019\u00e9toiles, un record, par contre l\u2019Asiair semblait avoir des probl\u00e8mes de dialogue avec l\u2019appareil photo. Je pensais que cela venait du wifi de l\u2019iPad&nbsp;puis du c\u00e2ble USB mais je pense que c\u2019est li\u00e9 \u00e0 la mise en veille du bo\u00eetier.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Dans le m\u00eame temps, j\u2019ai command\u00e9 une pi\u00e8ce imprim\u00e9e en 3D \u00e0 mon fils pour fixer l\u2019Asiair directement sur la monture afin d\u2019y accrocher une nouvelle lunette guide ZWO. L\u2019id\u00e9e c\u2019est de monter mon APN avec un objectif 500 mm ouvert \u00e0 f\/5.6 au lieu du t\u00e9lescope 2032 mm ouvert \u00e0 f\/10 et de piloter l\u2019ensemble via l\u2019Asiair. Cela en ferait une lunette pour l\u2019<a href=\"https:\/\/www.blog.neoprog.eu\/index.php\/2023\/02\/24\/astrophotographie\/\">astrophoto<\/a> d\u2019assez bonne qualit\u00e9 \u00e0 moindre co\u00fbt. <\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Le d\u00e9port de l&rsquo;Asiair sur le c\u00f4t\u00e9 avec la lunette guide pos\u00e9e dessus s&rsquo;est r\u00e9v\u00e9l\u00e9 une tr\u00e8s mauvaise id\u00e9e. La monture \u00e9tait compl\u00e8tement d\u00e9s\u00e9quilibr\u00e9 en d\u00e9clinaison rendant impossible n&rsquo;importe qu&rsquo;elle recherche d&rsquo;objet dans le ciel, m\u00eame apr\u00e8s un tr\u00e8s bon r\u00e9glage. 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